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- November 10th, 2010, 12:53 AM #1
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I belive we need a rating college area on this fourm.November 16th, 2010, 05:45 PM #2November 16th, 2010, 09:48 PM #3
I would be open to this sort of thing if we can collectively agree on a rating system first. Something like a 10.0 point scale consisting of 0, 0.5 or 1.0 point for ten individual categories such as faculty, facilities, patient exposure, clinical methods and procedures (do you observe or do you perform?), difficulty of admission, the post-graduate performance of a college's students, etc., etc?
What other categories might we rate a college on? One way you could help yourself come up with answers to this question is ask yourself Why do I consider AKU or KE or whichever medical college to be the best medical college? Reputation? Why does that school have that reputation?
Something else which may be hard to factor in is that most students only have experience with their own medical college. How do you rate a college that you have never been to? Or should members only be allowed to rate their own college?
Let me hear your thoughts on these questions first before we implement a dedicated section of the forum for rating colleges, however I am interested in this as well.
I can tell you what I definitely do NOT want to see is something like this:
"h3lo0 m from AMC best college becuz it is run by army"November 17th, 2010, 01:07 AM #4
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thanks.10.0 point scale will be the best. My idea is make any section of rating area on the top of the forum. Where is list of home, members, FRQ and ect.
Like we have section and list of members. In there create some thing like this
Make the list of colleges that are recognized by PMDC. By this users will be able to know which college is recognized and which one is not and also where they can rat a college with out insulting any other college. For further info of list of colleges you can get from Abdullah18’s list. Also by this medstudentz will get more popular around the internet. When ever any one will research about any pmdc college, medstudentz forum automatically will upper in the research list.
Again this is any idea/ thoughtNovember 17th, 2010, 12:29 PM #5
It's a good idea. I agree with the 10.0 scale. But I still am getting the feeling that there will be biased assumptions. In every rating list about Pakistan medical schools over the internet is always different, apart from Aga Khan or KE being at the top.
The chances of a student complimenting his own medical school are greater and for a random person to have feedback about other schools that they don't know about would also be wrong. I'm sure we've been through those problem over the forum.
We should have all the factors that were listed by Mastahriz based on individual criterias when commenting on a school.
Also there's a great number of foreigners coming to Pakistan for medical school so we should go according to their expectations as well, other then the fact that they are recognized by PMDC. Such as USMLE pass rates and residency acceptances in certain programs. Or if certain schools provide leaves for electives and things like that.
Personally, I think that the list should continuously be updated after a certain period of time because in the upcoming years the curriculum is bringing on vast amount of changes. It will create the uniqueness of the ratings if it's backed up with proof, which the majority of the sites over the internet don't have.November 18th, 2010, 03:50 PM #6
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yes it is a very good idea. the 10 point scale as suggested by MastahRiz should be implemented while rating colleges.
since there are too many aspects which can be taken into consideration while reviewing a college, the ratings should be based on general aspects only.
the 10 categories for the scale, in addition to the 6 suggested by mastahriz:
2. overall teaching facilities/infrastructure
3. patient exposure
4. clinincal methods and procedures
5. difficulty of admission (overall fee, open-merit seats etc)
6. post-graduate performance of students (generally)
7. difficulty in adjusting -for a foreigner
8. academic environment (average IQ level of a class -this matters in a private medical college)
9. others (hostel? cafe? transport? library? lectures backup? student grooming/improvement programmes? labs? assessments? extra-curriculars? discipline? college hours? relative time left in the day for self-study) <--if any of these is relavent #eek
(actually i guess, since i'm in my first year of MBBS, my focus is mainly on the pre-clinical years of a college while suggesting categories)
maybe we can have a separate review page about colleges best suited for foreigners which highlight the categories you suggested.
anyhow, everbody's opinion counts so i'll go with what everyone has to say.November 18th, 2010, 07:11 PM #7
Yeah that's cool...I'm sure we are all are aware of the fact that a "lot" of foreigners are coming to Pakistan to pursue a career in the medical field. So it's pretty much a high yield point that should be taken into consideration. Not just the foreigners, but quite some people who are Pakistani locals intend to go abroad as well after graduation. But just to make it less confusing, it may be better to implement that in a different threat possibly or like a sub-category.November 18th, 2010, 08:38 PM #8
Academic environment- An acceptable category but not at all objective unless you plan to administer IQ tests to every student at every medical college in Pakistan.
Others- this one could work...
I'm now starting to feel that there's no need to make 10 categories if we don't have 10. If we end up with 5 or 6, we will simply change the point allocation. Instead of 0, 0.5, and 1.0, we can go from 0 to 2.0 in 0.5pt increments and measure each category more precisely.November 18th, 2010, 11:31 PM #9
Well, the ratings can start of with the top 5 or 6 categories. If the outcome is good, then more categories can be added on afterwards... and perhaps increasing the rating scale. Now that I think about it, I'd go for a scale of 0-5.0 maximum, in 0.5 increments...but only if the amount of categories increase. 0-10.0 would be too vague... For now 0-2.0 would be a better choice.
As far as the Academic Environment is concerned, I think it's more leaning towards the amount of competition among students during the admission process. A lot of people tend to think that the more competitive a school is, the better it is compared to the rest. Such as Aga Khan...the level of competition is very high during the admission process, compared to a school in Kashmir or something. This factor usually throws a lot of people off and not thinking about other factors that also count. But I think this category is more a part of Difficulty in Admissions. Other than that, judging students' academic levels in medical school wouldn't really be an accurate point in the academic environment section...
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