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- November 23rd, 2008, 08:13 AM #1
I have been thinking...where do WE stand?
I have been thinking...I know that I would get many negative remarks on writing this but I feel I can't stop now that I have started.
It is just that while reading through the Pakistani medical school section I noticed many threads containing advice on how to adjust to Pakistan...being an overseas Pakistani and having only visited Pakistan in my life and never lived there(I wasn't even born there!) naturally I was very interested in reading those threads...there was one thing that bothered me though...every one who had any advice to offer kept saying something meaning "just survive there it is only five years after all and you will be back to whatever place you belong to"(most of the time it was the west-not that I have anything against living in the west...)
moreover I heard remarks talking about the bleak sanitary/living/other conditions in Pakistan...it made me me wonder about something which made me touch this sensitive topic...we post all sort of negative stuff about Pakistan...we blame the government....in a nutshell we hate the living conditions the overall security situation...but have we ever thought about where WE stand?
We have many demands;security,better cheaper education,better political situation... but have we ever thought about giving anything in return?I mean that all of us go to pakistan to just study come back and practice our profession in whatever country we resided before...isn't that selfish?Specially since we know that according to recent statistics(I studied in Pakistan studies in FSc) there is only ONE doctor per 1000(approx) people in pakistan...
It makes me want to cry...at our selfishness...at our unrealistic dreams(of an extremely luxurious lifestyle....)...at all we want...and at all that we are unwilling to give in return...
My request...please please give somthing at least in return after all no matter where you are ...whichever nationality you have...you still be called a British/canadian/american emarati/saudi of pakistani origin...nothing can change your genes ...your blood...your roots..
You may not live in Pakistan...you may have never stayed there for a long tme...but remember all that that was sacrificed just so that you could have this piece of land for your own...it belongs to you...take care of it as you would of your own home...please give it a thought...(I know most you would ahve given up reading this...#laugh)
Every year hundreds if not thousands of medical students graduate to become doctors...most out of these go to the west mainly to"specialize"and never return or if they do return is when they are retired from their previous jobs...when they are above 70 years of age when they know no one else will give them a job ...then they come and open a private hospital in pakistan and eventhough they have earned enough to last generations...their greed isn't satisfied...they treat patients according to their monetary status...if you can pay for the treatment...if not you are the denied the right to medical services or even if it is given to you...you are treated worst than an animal...
btw I visited a government hospital in karachi with my mother a month ago...my mother was a private patient that is she had gone to a private hospital but since that hospital did not have the apparatus for transoesophagal echography;TEE-if I am right about the abbreviation... and her doctor also worked in that government hospital...she had gone to that government hosplital for the test...what I saw....I can't repeat the hospital looked more like a railway platform....the place stinked...poor patients were waiting...for like days...whereas my mom went and had her test and came back...just because she had paid 3000 rs for the test whereas those people waiting had it for free...they kept bringing in patients for TEE and I felt like killing all those ward boys and nurses for it...animals are treated better...the patients on strechers had no privacy if they had a catheter inserted...the nurses felt no need to cover their tummies if the had some kind of bandage or anything else nobody felt the need to atleast cover them with a simple cotton sheet(I am sure most of these sheets would be present in those nurses' homes#angry)
Where was I?! I guess I strayed from the topic...but the actual thing I wanted to say....I know some of you will hate me for it....more of you will laugh at me...even more will advice me to go to a mental hospital...but here it is I don't care...
HELP PAKISTAN BEACUSE IT NEEDS YOU NOW...DON'T RUN AWAY JUST BEACUSE YOU WILL NOT AHAVE AS MANY LUXERIES AS ABROAD....AND IF YOU REFUSE TO STAY THEN YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO CRITISIZE PAKISTAN....NO NEED TO LAUGH AT IT....WE DONT WANT SELFISH PEOPLE ANYWAYS...
Lastly like any other politician's speech(sarcastic)Pakistan ZINDABAD!
On a lighter note I am listening to a poem about he city of sharjah(where i currently reside) and am loving it....oh yes I do love good old sharjah; it has given me a lot...but no I owe Pakistan more...so no thoughts about coming here to practice after becoming a doctor inshaAllah(if I do become one #wink)
Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.November 23rd, 2008, 08:16 AM #2
By the way...I do not intend to start a political party of my own so my request is that no one consider what I have said as apolitical speech I really mean what ever I have written....Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.November 23rd, 2008, 11:36 AM #3
No one even has time to read your full speech. Try writing the summary of what you wrote above.#laughNovember 23rd, 2008, 11:39 AM #4
Just because you don't have the time...doesn't mean that others don't have it too...moreover this area is for people who are free...I am sure no one would enter the MS lounge while busy,just read the highlighted part(in block letters..and large font)if you insist on a summary...Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.November 23rd, 2008, 07:37 PM #5
Its nothing selfish or particular to the doctors themselves, just the conditions for doctors in Pakistan and the opportunities available to them are pathetic. If you, the people of pakistan, fund less to the army and more to education, health, and other public services, you will see less of a brain drainNever let the fear of striking out, keep you from playing the game.November 23rd, 2008, 08:04 PM #6
I agree with all of that but still...we should learn to live for others who are less fortunate than us...these are just my thoughts...no one has to agree with them...#yesDo not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.November 23rd, 2008, 08:41 PM #7
i agree with you and you know i wanted to write all this, u know i really really cried right now coz u have written all which i wanted to say from very long
i really love my pakistan, i know there are many problems here but if you are coming to study here so just love where u rNovember 24th, 2008, 08:20 AM #8
At least some one agrees with me I thank Allah for it#laugh less we might be in number but inshaAllah we will do something one day...some thing that will help our roots...our country..#yesDo not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.November 24th, 2008, 01:12 PM #9November 24th, 2008, 09:36 PM #10December 2nd, 2008, 03:18 AM #11
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i am really touched by what you have written too and yeah i do feel that way too..
oh god.. i have been to a govt. hospital in pakistan too.. and it is really "scary"... you come back from it.. and you think about all those ppl.. on the floor.. on stretchers... and their lil stories.. :$ its really depressing... and we dont know.. if our country will ever rise from this poverty.. hmm.. i havent lived in pakistan too.. i was born here in saudi arabia and lived here all my life.. and yeah.. i am totally used to the luxurious lifestyle here.. so yeah.. living in pakistan for the next five years.. wont b as bad.. i like to make the best of things life throws at you.. and even thought i have no plans to practice in pakistan after graduation.. i will always cherish the memories i hav there.. thers a sense of belonging in lahore.. that i dont hav here.. so its always gona b special to me no matter where i live.. and as for contributing.. yeah i know you are right about "giving back" to pakistan... i do plan to give back... in an effort to make things better.. but in a different sense i guess.. like i wud want to donate money from my earning.. to the poor... for better equipments.. and if i get a chance i might even work there... but the fact that i m going to make a living abroad doesnt mean that i will b selfish.. its just how life is... thanks miss khawand... for bringing this up.. this is defintly smething i m gna keep in mind.. for a very very long time
and as for that other guy who asked for a summary.... go find something else to do.. ur mentally disturbed..December 3rd, 2008, 12:06 PM #12
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i appreciate your thoughts and do agreee with you...it really makes me sad whenever i go through the posts of our own pakistani mates critcising our own country....
we are pakistani and we will remain foreever ...there is no need to get ashamed of it....i m proud of it and we shoud try to make it a beter place to live rather than sitting at net and giving bad impression of our country to others.....
and why every one is just highlighting only bad points of our system......July 13th, 2009, 07:00 PM #13
I am new to this forum and just read this thread.....
I fully agree with you missakhwand.... I am living in Vienna ( Austria ) but I was born in pakistan..... I am planing to go to Islamabad after completing the specialization in Implantology ( Dentistry ) in ~6 years inshallah .... during my last visit in summer 2008 in Islamabad I was pleasantly surprised to see how well developed our country is ... ( yes there are still many things which can be improved.... but Pakistan is for sure a place where u can live a happy life )..... my sister will follow my for sure she also willing to go back to Pakistan( after her specialization as internist in ~10 years )
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!PAKISTAN ZINDABAD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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