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    Quote Originally Posted by nouman javed View Post
    In punjab Lahore board and rawalpindi board are tough.
    And dgkhan bwp board are most lenient boards.



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    How you can say in Punjab DG khan and BWP board are most lenient boards?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cris View Post
    How you can say in Punjab DG khan and BWP board are most lenient boards?
    I guess one can look at how students from each board fair in mcat or different entrance exams in different medical and engineering college and infer. Its not a fool proof method but can give an indication?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kobefan234 View Post
    you are lucky. my dad is not letting me do the 4+4 BS + MD in USA. He said 5 years in MBBS in pak then do Steps is a more economically friendly option..
    It is more economical plus who knows after 4 years whether I get admission in Medical School or not. Not easy to stay above 3.7 GPA, Prepare for American Mcat, do internships and volunteering. So for 4 years you are stuck in limbo. If you start in Pakistan and want to come back to US, still not easy going USMLE and competing but if you fail, you can do that mighty fine MPH that you would end up doing if you don't get admitted to Med School in US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cris View Post
    How you can say in Punjab DG khan and BWP board are most lenient boards?
    In kips rawalpindi a teacher who taught in siraiki region for 6 years was teaching biology to our class and he was saying so.
    You get 85 out of 90 in practicals in that area.
    I was saying in comparison to rawalpindi and Lahore.
    You may have a look at question papers from these boards.
    In Sindh cheating is so high that even geo news can easily show it to people.
    As for as I remember In 2010-11 CM punjab said 11 student get admission in medical colleges from lower punjab in comparison to 10 from upper punjab.
    It is self evident that education standards are high in upper punjab.



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    Quote Originally Posted by nouman javed View Post
    In kips rawalpindi a teacher who taught in siraiki region for 6 years was teaching biology to our class and he was saying so.
    You get 85 out of 90 in practicals in that area.
    I was saying in comparison to rawalpindi and Lahore.
    You may have a look at question papers from these boards.
    In Sindh cheating is so high that even geo news can easily show it to people.
    As for as I remember In 2010-11 CM punjab said 11 student get admission in medical colleges from lower punjab in comparison to 10 from upper punjab.
    It is self evident that education standards are high in upper punjab.



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    So you have based this assumption about Siraiki boards on following facts:

    1) One teachers from KIPS comments who taught in Siraiki region for 6 years
    2) High cheating in Sindh
    3) CM Punjab comments that more Siraiki students are getting admission then upper Punjab students
    4) It is self evident to you education standards are high in upper punjab

    Even though based on above arguments I would not form a hypothesis but since most of the lower punjab is economically, industrially, educational institutions and literacy wise way behind then upper punjab, the education standards MIGHT also be lower. Also students from less privileged backgrounds are less likely to afford KIPS or any good academies that can prepare students for MCAT and any such exams. They are less likely to score well on English language exams coming from Urdu medium schools and less likely to fare well on any tricky exams. However they could be very likely to be good at cramming when it comes to FSc.
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    Does anyone know if a person with 70% aggregate could get admission on foreign seat? Reading all these comments has gotten me alot nervous.
    Please if someone could reply? :worried:
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    This topic is about admission in govt colleges, are you looking public or private.
    If public search for PTAP merit list for last year and year before. No point in checking SFS list from last year as last year only had foreign transcript students with 15% cut by IBCC. This year it will be FSc students from ME also with no IBCC cuts so whole new merit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nouman javed View Post
    In kips rawalpindi a teacher who taught in siraiki region for 6 years was teaching biology to our class and he was saying so.
    You get 85 out of 90 in practicals in that area.
    I was saying in comparison to rawalpindi and Lahore.
    You may have a look at question papers from these boards.
    In Sindh cheating is so high that even geo news can easily show it to people.
    As for as I remember In 2010-11 CM punjab said 11 student get admission in medical colleges from lower punjab in comparison to 10 from upper punjab.
    It is self evident that education standards are high in upper punjab.



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    But now there are no marks of practicals.In practicals there is only a grading system........
    I think you have no informations about question papers creation.Papers of a board are not formed in that board....Question papers of different subjects are formed in different boards...A paper setter from each board gather in one board for forming question paper of one subject and each paper setter form four question papers and after that there is a random shuffling of questions from all question papers by a head of that paper setters and then he send question papers of that subject randomly in all punjab boards.Now, the difficulty level of a paper depends upon the luck and prayers of students of each board............
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    Quote Originally Posted by escalations View Post
    This topic is about admission in govt colleges, are you looking public or private.
    If public search for PTAP merit list for last year and year before. No point in checking SFS list from last year as last year only had foreign transcript students with 15% cut by IBCC. This year it will be FSc students from ME also with no IBCC cuts so whole new merit.
    I'm talking about admission in public sector. And yes i know about the fsc students and new merit but still is there a slight chance for admission?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minzy View Post
    I'm talking about admission in public sector. And yes i know about the fsc students and new merit but still is there a slight chance for admission?
    There is always a slight chance since you can never guess how many foreign students will apply on those seats. Also most foreign students prefer Lahore and RWP/ISL colleges, if you had selected all colleges including ones in small cities, you have a slight chance. At this point it is anyone's guess.
    If you want to be a Dr at any cost, while waiting for this merit do look into Private Medical Colleges also as the merit is supposed to rise considering we will have students competing with no IBCC 15% cut.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cris View Post
    But now there are no marks of practicals.In practicals there is only a grading system........
    I think you have no informations about question papers creation.Papers of a board are not formed in that board....Question papers of different subjects are formed in different boards...A paper setter from each board gather in one board for forming question paper of one subject and each paper setter form four question papers and after that there is a random shuffling of questions from all question papers by a head of that paper setters and then he send question papers of that subject randomly in all punjab boards.Now, the difficulty level of a paper depends upon the luck and prayers of students of each board............
    I didn't elaborate my point.
    In English exam only those questions are given which are in the end exercise of lesson.
    Whereas in Lahore and pindi board we get new questions which are not in exercise.
    In 2012 I did all past papers from all boards and got it. You are saying what is said by different boards to show their honesty but they out the scheme of science subjects.
    I know in dg khan scheme of paper is given and not pairing of chapters which is given from almost all boards.
    For part 2 of science subjects they tell students prepare only five chapters (2,4,7,9,11) and your part2 will be covered.
    And if short seqs are shuffled there is enough choice to get through.
    Like Uhs said they have fool proof management for Mcat but it got out last year.
    And there are mafias which demand 10 lac of paper.
    You said I have no information. I would like to say what I'm saying is my personal opinion based on my information from different news papers , friends, teachers and it is not an AYAT from QURAN. It may be wrong.





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    My agg is 84.306. What are my chances on overseas?:confused:
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    A psychological effect
    If an examiner is checking papers of good students his standard would become higher particularly in arts subjects he will mark strictly any average paper. And he will look for good presentation, writing and sentences as he seen in previous papers.
    If a person gets 80 marks in English he would get 74 by sitting in between toppers in exam hall.
    I seen this phenomenon
    It is not necessary to agree with me.



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    Quote Originally Posted by razamalik View Post
    My agg is 84.306. What are my chances on overseas?:confused:
    Due to the rule change this year a lot more people are going to apply so no one can guess the merit, other then saying it is going to go up.
    There is not much anyone can do at this point to change anything so hope and pray for the best. 84.306 is a good agg, so my guess is you should be good.
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    Hopefully the merit for these 76 seats will be low.
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    What's your agg escalations?
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    I wanted to ask that if someone has given sat than is it necessary to appear in MCAT or we can get admission on the basis of sat?
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    Quote Originally Posted by razamalik View Post
    What's your agg escalations?
    Thanks for asking but I am in Grade 12 and I will be in the hunt next year. I have done my SAT 2's (as starting Nov I am apply to US Universities) and with my Grade 11 grade and so far grade 12 I will have around 90% totals but then I have to face an IBCC cut for no FSc so not sure what agg I end up with. We have % grades in Canada, no letter grades like A, A+, B.

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    Quote Originally Posted by razamalik View Post
    I wanted to ask that if someone has given sat than is it necessary to appear in MCAT or we can get admission on the basis of sat?
    You can just use SAT (assuming you are oversea's/foreign student). You will need to give Bio, Chem and one of Maths or Physics.
    If you decide to give Maths, there are two SAT 2 Math exams, you can take either one. Similarly there are 2 Bio SAT 2 exams, E or M, you can take either one. To find the difference in exams checkout the collegeboard web site.
    Also don't confuse MCAT in Pakistan with MCAT in USA. Some private medical colleges in Pakistan will accept a MCAT (USA) score in lieu of SAT 2's also.
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    But it is mentioned on UHS website that for admission on these 76 foreign seats the appearance in MCAT is essential. Isn't like this??
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    Quote Originally Posted by razamalik View Post
    But it is mentioned on UHS website that for admission on these 76 foreign seats the appearance in MCAT is essential. Isn't like this??


    See it says ''either''. And at the end it says ''mandatory if applying on local seats''

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    @razamalik are you applying on SAT scores?
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    Quote Originally Posted by razamalik View Post
    But it is mentioned on UHS website that for admission on these 76 foreign seats the appearance in MCAT is essential. Isn't like this??
    From my understanding,admission against local open merit seats requires MCAT.
    If one wants to gain admissions against 76 reserved seats for the children of overseas pakistanis/dual nationality holders of pakistani origin,one must have appeared in EITHER SAT-II or MCAT or has cleared MCAT® of United States with an aggregate score of 24 and above.
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