but @kobefan234, We're missing the fact that al nafees has a 'welfare' hospital and is newly built in contrast to Yusra Gen. Hospital.
And welfare hospital is doomed to get patients howsoever years maybe. in the 5 years to come, its hospital will definitely get more patient flow.
Btw i visited it at interview and it looks pretty good. The hospital is quite nice and in true ways serving humanity. Dont know much about faculty.
My name was on top of the interview list so i hope i'll get in (INSHALLAH)
Lol at USMLE from nafees. Hell no. Nafees will just give you a mbbs degree which is what you need if you want to do USMLE residency in USA. No batches have graduated because it started in 2012.
I know ... but i just dont need the degree. USMLE requirement fulfilling is not the aim . To clear it is the goal. For that i need good college specially clinical. What do you think about Isb med and dental college?
As a IMG from Nafees or wherever you need a good step 1 score ~220+. Also depends if your a U.S. citizen or not. Doing USMLE is totally up to you. No mbbs program will help you in USMLE. And I highly doubt any people going to nafees have any intention of doing USMLE. In Pakistan mostly shifa , dimc, aku. These students have intentions of going back to USA for residency.
Hmmm. Well shifa and aku ain't happening for me. So i'l have to manage it , at all costs. Nafees is just a safety college, in case i get no where. But USMLE is must. My dad's gonna kill me if i dont.
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No mbbs program would help me". Dude this is way off. I might clear step 1 with my own studies of basic sciences but i can't clear other steps specially step 3 which is clinical test. I need good demonstrators / specialized doctors. And people from other colleges go to usa as well. No that much but still we can't straight off bluntly say no mbbs program will help in usmle. What is usmle ? The stuff we study for 5 years in mbbs . I have a friend who cleared all steps and now in usa. He only preped for usmle for 6 months after his mbbs.
Nafees won't teach you USMLE's. No MBSS program will teach you USMLE. USMLE is a personal endeavor. You must somehow balance doing your MBBS professional exams and your independent USMLE step 1 study
Yeah if you in nafees or wherever USMLE prep needs to be done independently. Only thing is 99% of nafees batch won't have that plan of taking USMLE. Maybe in schools like DIMC, Shifa you will have senior batch kids who are studying for USMLE but those kids are US citizens and only came to Pakistan for the mbbs degree.
College does assist. Try to opt for a college that follows the module system and evidence based integrated curriculum. Why? Because the way they will test you during your exams, mid terms, finals will be based on the US MBBS studies program. The USMLE is not a special exam. US students take it too. Except that its not a big deal for them, it's somewhat like a final proff. So, it's based on how you're taught through your degree. For instance, gov colleges will test you on MCQs made out of certain books like Firdous or BD Churasia. The US colleges are being tested on books like Snells. Most MCQs they're asked are evidence based. You're given a clinical problem and you answer with a clinical application of basic sciences. In colleges that follow the subject system, they'll ask you MCQs based on curriculum books.
Point is, you can clear the USMLE even if you graduate from Avicenna. You'l just have to try that much harder and start over from new books. If you go to a college that follows their teaching method, you'll have to make an easier effort.
Hmm Thanks. Very incouraging that last point. Definetly i will try to get in a modular system teaching college. I am worried about the final step clinical one. For which I can study all the books in the world but i won't be able to reciprocal the hard work that goes into gaining the practical skill. So can you tell, is the step 3 passable if one doesn't have a good teaching hospital?( you seem knowledgeable @nida, are you in the process of USMLE or done? Which med college did you go to?
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@kobe Dude, people from all over pak clear usmle from every background without having citizenship. I dont know why i would come to pak at 1st place if i am a usa citizen. I would do MD from there. Nafees is just a college i applied, nothing more.
Hmm thanks buddy. I appreciate your advice. I have applied to yusra and imdc. Lets hope they accept me. I have heard yusra has modular system same as shifa and amc. What are your choices?
Please don't go to Yusra. They called me over just a phone call. I didn't even take their entrance exam. A college that desperate cannot be doing well at all.
I'm at Shifa, first year proffs coming up. I know about the USMLE because almost everyone at Shifa takes them.The library is loaded with USMLE prep students. And most dual US citizens do come to Pakistan for MBBS because #1. MBBS in the US is very very expensive and most people cannot afford it. #2. It takes longer. #3 It is not easy to get into a US medical school even if you have the time and financial resources. The competition is far far tougher than it is in Pakistan.
Ok I won't. But i have very limited choices. I missed shifa by 2% so I know how unlucky I am. The other option I have is Isb Med and Dental College. What do you think about it? You must'hve applied there last year. My bro is in amc , he also told me not to opt for yusra
Please don't go to Yusra. They called me over just a phone call. I didn't even take their entrance exam. A college that desperate cannot be doing well at all.
I'm at Shifa, first year proffs coming up. I know about the USMLE because almost everyone at Shifa takes them.The library is loaded with USMLE prep students. And most dual US citizens do come to Pakistan for MBBS because #1. MBBS in the US is very very expensive and most people cannot afford it. #2. It takes longer. #3 It is not easy to get into a US medical school even if you have the time and financial resources. The competition is far far tougher than it is in Pakistan.
Yesssss. Shifa has that advantage over Nafees or IMDC. it has students which want to go back to USA for residency. I am also dual national and I just want the mbbs degree and thats it.
Yesssss. Shifa has that advantage over Nafees or IMDC. it has students which want to go back to USA for residency. I am also dual national and I just want the mbbs degree and thats it.
No one is arguing shifa's advantage of USMLE over 90% of pak's medschool. But what can i do with that advantage , when I couldn't get in it. So tell me the alternatives that come close to it, plus in this region only isb/rwp.
I think I should go for Al-Nafees and avail the opportunity. Only because it follows the 'modular' system.
And secondly, maybe in 4-5 years it will have a real good patient flow because it has a 'welfare' hospital.
I'm guessing that ymdc and anmc are same in terms of faculty or environment. ymdc has an edge because it has one batch passed out.
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