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Frontier Medical College vs Shifa College of Medicine

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WHICH IS BEST AND WHY?
 
#3 ·
i have been thinking the same thing but theres no point in asking this question on this forum since most people here study at shifa while others dont know anything or atleast not that much about any college.I guess it depends on your needs n wants as well,if you want or are used to more ummh social life than shifa is better as its in islamabad.Shifa is quite well known,its hospital is good and so is its faculty and its more sorta 'liberal' then FMC(for girls).
However FMC is much cheaper(2 lacs to be precise if you are applying as local),its faculty is absolutely great,its students(sir aj khan during our entry test this year came and sort of gave a speech and told about FMC students taking positions in uhs and i think had highest marsk in usmle or something,ok i actually wasnt lisening but i cant imagine someone like him lying and the stuff he was saying made this college look academically VERY good and frankly otherwise as well i have heard its students have very high pass percentage and have good concepts).Its college is way bigger than shifas though i have to warn you,last time i wet there,the washrooms there stinked while shifa is very clean.
Shifa bdw as a college is by no means the highest ranking college,this forum makes it look like that,alot of students dont even apply here and its actually understood in rawalpindi and islamabad that foundation for instance is much better.
The only reason this college is well known is because of its hospital and frankly here in pindi/islo its sort of considered greedy and too expenisve,my fathers friend who is a doctor said they specially in their last years take more fee,add up expenses etc and i have heard this rumor from others too,i however dont know if its true.
I really wish i could somehow find pass rates and overall average each college's student get in their final mbbs exams,i think that actually accurately would tell us which college and faculty is better.FMCs hospital bdw i doubt would be better than shifa though i dont know much about it and alot of people think getting in FMC is easy(even though more students appear for entry test in fmc than shifa).
 
#5 · (Edited by Moderator)
Shifa has the 2nd best faculty in Pakistan only after Aga khan... i dont study in shifa Im being neutral ... it depends on your goals as a medical student actually which is better.... i plan to specialise in the US so in that context the fact that i'll be getting clinical training by american specialised doctors and taught according to an american style curriculum (its common knowledge shifa constantly works on its curriculum trying to copy american medskools) it'll be better for me for passing my USMLEs and later adjusting for when i go for specialisation.. you also hear about many people going for clinical electives in US from shifa and its common knowledge that many many shifa graduates get residencies in the united states... in this context its a very good medical college....

as far as finances go people are taking it to far... shifa is charging 450,000 compared to 583,000 AKU and i think also Baqai, and 500,000 ziauddin charges... for a private medical college it isnt that much, especially considering after how much they pay ther faculty..

i agree, shifa is a bit overhyped on this forum... you could go to a cheaper medical college, study hard and suceed from ther also...

but i must say the fact that i live in khi and ppl here hav heard of shifa and not heard of any other medical college in that area says something.. shifa is known all over Pakistan... frontier just isnt...

@ blue_sofa... i doubt a frontier grad got the highest USMLE score ahead of shifa,AKU,KE,DMC grads... and u cant judge a medical college based on applicants... on that basis Dow is better than AKU by a mile.... cheaper medical schools attract more applicants....
 
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Shifa has the 2nd best faculty in Pakistan only after Aga khan... i dont study in shifa Im being neutral ... it depends on your goals as a medical student actually which is better.... i plan to specialise in the US so in that context the fact that i'll be getting clinical training by american specialised doctors and taught according to an american style curriculum (its common knowledge shifa constantly works on its curriculum trying to copy american medskools) it'll be better for me for passing my USMLEs and later adjusting for when i go for specialisation.. you also hear about many people going for clinical electives in US from shifa and its common knowledge that many many shifa graduates get residencies in the united states... in this context its a very good medical college....

as far as finances go people are taking it to far... shifa is charging 450,000 compared to 583,000 AKU and i think also Baqai, and 500,000 ziauddin charges... for a private medical college it isnt that much, especially considering after how much they pay ther faculty..

i agree, shifa is a bit overhyped on this forum... you could go to a cheaper medical college, study hard and suceed from ther also...

but i must say the fact that i live in khi and ppl here hav heard of shifa and not heard of any other medical college in that area says something.. shifa is known all over Pakistan... frontier just isnt...

@ blue_sofa... i doubt a frontier grad got the highest USMLE score ahead of shifa,AKU,KE,DMC grads... and u cant judge a medical college based on applicants... on that basis Dow is better than AKU by a mile.... cheaper medical schools attract more applicants....
My stupid touch pad,i wanted to submit my message instead i think i pressed it too hard or something it just went back and when i pressed forward all my message was gone and im going crazy now#growl #frown ,i cant reply now but mayby tomorrw or some other day when i am in a better mood...
 
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@topic

I have visited both colleges and according to my observation the faculty and facilitations in Shifa are far superior than in Frontier Medical colleges.Shifa has more competetive entry test system than Fmc so students of Shifa gets more cream students than fmc where people with lower merit are studying.Undoubtly Frontier medical college is ranked among good private medical colleges and it is best in Khyber Pakhtunkwa.
 
#11 · (Edited)
i have heard that fmc take 95 percent overseas. is it true.?
these stories are false#happy they take 50 according to rule and some time few more#angry to make money when open merit student dont but ration isn't 95% it varies from 40-60%..Dr AJ Khan is strict about the issue and thats why unlike other private medical colleges of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa FMC got good repute in Pakistan.Medical colleges like Abbottabad International,Peshawar Medical college,Bannu Medical college Islamabad medical college and the list goes on... are warned or banned in past but FMC has clean and clear history never banned or warned#happy.

according to rule they have 50 foreign seats and 50 open merit.
 
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have you been called for the interview bdw out of 100,80 seats are open-merit seats(i specifically called them yesterday and checked) so how can they take 50 over sea-students unless mayby they are lying to me or the guy i talked to didnt knew(it is possible) anyhow the over-sea students fee is only 6000dollar,not even 2lac above local students fee so its not that big difference.
 
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why have you decided not to deposit fee,where is low competition and dicouraging environment and exactly what do you mean by environemnt??!
I think academically it is quite good and frankly alot of college's fee are for this year only and the tuition fee is 4lac some thousand(i have estimated the total fee etc would be 1.5 lac less next year though who knows what they may ask for next year),dude other collges have more tuition fee than that and god knows how much everything adds up there(im not sure about this but did you see.50,000 something were some govt. charges which im guessing every private medical college is going to ask for).The competitin is pretty much the same as every other college,shifa is quite good and i personally know a boy with 49% in entrance test giving interview there,there were like 1500 students this year who had appeared for the entrance test and last year it was above 2000(i guess due to mcat demand,the no. of students that applied here were much lower) as for environment,it sort of is restricted i agree and yeah their washrooms atleast on my interview day were unbearable but these are secondary things and i can live with it:)
I am going for it even though i have applied and have gotten interviews in many places and am quite sure i will get in ripha bdw the students there were quite happy with their college,i guess thats a good sign bdw people who have gotten in shifa,what is the amount( for boarder and non-boarder both) that you are supposed to submit this year.
 
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you should call them and check but i think 1st merit list is out,i had called them on thursday and they had told me final list would be out after 2days and we would be called and i got my letter today.You should call and check on monday yourself bdw i am talking about open-merit list.
 
#23 ·
fmc hostel rules r stricter than any imagination!!!
but for first 2 years!!
they dont let anybody to go out of hostel!!!
they made their bill frm studentz (acc. to sum frnd studing there in 3rd they charge 600 electricity bill for each m0onth!!)
miss shahena has strict rulez!!!
but for everythin if one become afraid he could nt become a doctor!!
their teaching methodology can b considered next only to agha khan!!they made full focus on studies!!!
dont let it never never!!!
frontier teaching methodology iz ov high class better than shifa but nt than foundation!!! or cmh lahore!!!
shifa iz full sifarish!!!
You don't know what you're talking about. Since the methodology followed by medical colleges now, Which is the Modular Integrated curriculum was first taken up by Aga Khan University, Followed by Shifa College of Medicine, Army Medical College, and then Foundation University Medical College took it up. Followed by Islamic, Frontier, etc. So you can't say its high class or better than Shifa's since they have been following it before.

"FUMC is the fourth institution after Aga Khan University, Shifa Medical College and Army Medical College to introduce this effective teaching methodology in Pakistan."

You can find that line on Foundations site. Foundation Univesity - FUMC

Also read the forum rules and use proper English, or the mods will ban you.
 
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ok all im concerned about is fmc's hostel environment,they dont let you out at all like AT ALL!!! i mean cmon you need to go out sometime and there are going to be more charges,damn ah well 600 per months not that bad i guess,not fair but affordable somewhat.
And i am not considering shifa anymore since i am not in its list and i may not get in so theres no point:):p im not going to wait and take any risks etc but if you know anything about fmcs hostel like no. of students in 1 room etc,please do reply.
 
#25 · (Edited)
A medical schools reputation is built on its facilities and faculty. Thats what makes it the best. Shifa's Departments of Basic and Clinical Health Sciences is headed and taught by doctors who all have degrees from either US or UK.
And, Shifa International Hospital is probably one of the best hospitals.
There is no list of ranking of Medical Colleges, so you can't say it falls below FUMC, FMC, etc.
And, just because one student got 99.5% it doesn't reflect the whole college. Look at how many students go to the US for residencies.
As all 100 seats in Shifa are for Merit. While FUMC has 40 reserved seats for Army and more reserved for international and expatriates.
 
#27 ·
This guy doesn't know what he is talking about. First of All Shifa's list of selected candidates is not arranged in Merit. But, in the order you applied. Look at it again closely.

And, I dont even think you are in FMC or any medical college, cause you have too much time, considering you are comparing selection lists of two medical colleges. =P
 
#28 ·
shifa is shit

shifa is shit guys i gt 68% in test and 915 in fsc bt i didnt get in they r jst giving admissions on favouritism basis and nt merit...dnt u ever apply there...i knw this guy who gt 38 in test he gt in....and this person who didnt even get an interview through contacts got one and gt in...this is shifas reality guys!!!!
 
#30 · (Edited by Moderator)
shifa is shit guys i gt 68% in test and 915 in fsc bt i didnt get in they r jst giving admissions on favouritism basis and nt merit...dnt u ever apply there...i knw this guy who gt 38 in test he gt in....and this person who didnt even get an interview through contacts got one and gt in...this is shifas reality guys!!!!
Dude, i have no contacts nor sefarish of any kind what so ever at shifa... and i got in with a lower admission test score and Fsc equivalence than you... i have trouble imagining them picking me over you unless something was up...

if you arent lieing call them and find out, perhaps they made a mistake or they didnt get your marksheet or something... you could always sue them....

well i also heard things like these about shifa in fact i also know someone who didnt get an interview but through sifarish he finally got one! im not against any medical college here but i dont think so shifa is that gud that people have made it on this forum i think the level is almost the same in private colleges!! however the discussion on this forum is useless as shifa students are defending shifa while others their respective college! i dont see any fair opinion being given here
Dude thats a little unfair... the thread is called fmc vs scm after all .. ofcourse shifa students are going to correct people... shifa's faculty is after all, dominated by american and uk trained doctors isnt it? ... they do have a modular integrated curriculum dont they? ... they do have an amazing hospital and good facilities dont they? ...many graduates do get good USMLE scores and land residencies in the US dont they?.... correct me if im wrong but i dont see any shifa students lieing about the college or the hospital or being dishonest in anyway...

Besides.. i dont know how this isnt common sense but frontier medical college is in abottabad .. you guys seriously think the best hospital and doctors in Abottabad will be any where near comparable to the best hospital and the best doctors in Islamabad? ... the country's capital ...
 
#29 ·
well i also heard things like these about shifa in fact i also know someone who didnt get an interview but through sifarish he finally got one! im not against any medical college here but i dont think so shifa is that gud that people have made it on this forum i think the level is almost the same in private colleges!! however the discussion on this forum is useless as shifa students are defending shifa while others their respective college! i dont see any fair opinion being given here
 
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