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- May 20th, 2006, 03:25 AM #41
noshi my dear..atleast ur degree is scientific..come on my degrees based on social sciences....i say u have more of a chance of gettin in to med school..oh and atleast u studied chem bio and physics at college....this is gonna b hard but its worth a shot...May 20th, 2006, 03:30 AM #42
Sadia: You can obtain information about both RMC and Shifa admissions on a Saturday as they are considered part of the normal work week here in Pakistan And yes you're correct, Fsc is NOT required for entrance into a Pakistani medical college. You just need to have those specific class requirements. If Fsc was required, I wouldn't be here As far as textbooks go I am not sure which ones are needed however if you go to the Prince Book Depot right across the street from RMC they can give you a good idea of which ones are used for the entrance examination. Also when you visit the campus you can ask some first year students.
Noshi: Welcome to the forum!
Shifa requires a 3.0 grade point average (on a 4.0 scale) for your cumulative high school/O-A levels curriculum which is a B average. Students who have around a 3.3 GPA have proven to be competitive in the past. If you have taken advanced level classes be sure to note that in your application and you shouldn't have any problems.
As far as the MCAT is concerned, Pakistani colleges put no weight on the MCAT examination. What they (Shifa Medical College) does want to see though is your College Board SAT Subject Test scores in chemistry, physics, and biology. You must take all three exams and out of the three you have to score a minimum of 650 on at least two of them. If however you do not want to take the Subject Tests you can instead take the Shifa College Entrance Test but I would recommend you take the Subject Tests instead as the Entrance Test is quite difficult and the # of test-takers is very high. So yeah, stick with the SAT Subject Tests instead.
Hope this helps you guys! :-)May 20th, 2006, 03:36 AM #43
rehan..i bet ur feeling like a celebrity with all these questions firing at you....be honest do u know anyone on your course who did not do Advanced level phsyics, chem and bio?because im thinking i have no chance if i dont have such subjects....this is jus gettin worse and worse..immthinking of calling em up 2moro...also are your lectures in english or urdu??May 20th, 2006, 03:42 AM #44
Sadia, most people did not take advanced level classes---they just did the regular coursework of physics, bio, and chem. You do NEED those subjects, but you don't have to take the most advanced versions of them---just get the basics and get them out of the way.
The lectures are in English. Patient interaction is in Urdu, a little Punjabi and sometimes just some weird grunts and facial expressions while you poke and prod them and act like you know what you're doing ;-)May 20th, 2006, 03:44 AM #45Originally Posted by SadiaMay 20th, 2006, 03:49 AM #46
so its a choice between RMC and Shifa..i swear i really wanan do this..you know when you reach a point in your life when you relaise your a spoilt little brat and havent shown your appreciation to you parents..well im going through that right now..which means im going to be calling up straight after fajr 2day..my urdu isnt as good as my english but i can get by....oh and paki weather i dont mind it..i go pakistan twice a yr anyway ...and plus my sis and dad have been there since jan....maik..are ur lectures in urdu? oh and its not this monday that il b in pak its next monday inshallah..May 20th, 2006, 03:55 AM #47
if you can get into shifa over rmc, take shifa.. you'll have less problems adjusting to paki society and system as shifa is more modern, more affluent peers. In rmc you will be in shock for about 6 months at how they teach and act. Its all in english with mixed urdu but for first few months you dont understand their english anyway. Lectures are really a waste of time, but just something you have to go through. They dont teach you anything so you have to putin ten times more work to do it. But if you have a good background in sciences, determination, you'll be fine. The weather is terrible though so I suggest you find a place to live in chaklala or islamabad as the hostels are worse than most jails in the world. Well let me know if you need anything, would be happy to show you around or introduce you to some people who could tell you more.Never let the fear of striking out, keep you from playing the game.May 20th, 2006, 03:59 AM #48
yea my dads bought a place in chaklala damn shifas expensive...im jus worried that my crappy degree subject will have no relevance..i jus oloked at the specimen entrance test for shifa it isnt as bad as i imagined i think i could study for it if i worked my *** off throughout my holiday..this trip to pakistan will determine what i do 4 the rest of my life!!if i dont go in2 medicine im going in2 teaching something which i dont fancy...hey is RMC near a cinema or am i jus confused?..Shifa does sound more advanced but its travelling to ISB everyday which seems tobe a hassle...May 20th, 2006, 04:04 AM #49
Oh if you already live in chaklala then theres no problem in going to rmc. I live in ISB and driving to pindi everyday sucks. Its not bad, you can get a medical degree and if you dont want to use it you dont have to. RMC is on TIPU road next to MOTI MAHAL cinema, (every taxi driver knows where that is hah) Its bout a 5 min drive from sadar/kfc in light traffic, and like 10 min from chaklala scheme 3. Just saying rmc is good I mean you learn a lot more but dont expect like a nice western style cafeteria or anything. heck the food in there is downright disgusting but you get used to it, just have to act like the locals do.Never let the fear of striking out, keep you from playing the game.May 20th, 2006, 04:06 AM #50
Yoseph stop hating on the samosa chaat!!! You know you love it!! Yummmm.....May 20th, 2006, 04:07 AM #51
the thing is i do want to use it..i want my mum to look at me and say sadia..."neri hasrat aao nei puri karli hai" lol im such a paki its actually funny...do u have many internatioanl students at RMC?yeea i kno where it is now..ceros cinema... i know my way around pindi wellMay 20th, 2006, 04:15 AM #52
ya, i also love being in the hospital for 5 hours urinating my intestines out, with a guy in shalwar kameez and a big moustache sticking IV lines into my veins and smiling haha..Never let the fear of striking out, keep you from playing the game.May 20th, 2006, 04:18 AM #53
Ay dude, I don't have the mustache anymore....but yea, I was smiling...not because you were in pain but because I actually got the IV in the patients arm this time and not his neck....damn, those two kinda look alike after a long shift!May 20th, 2006, 04:21 AM #54
its no where near ceros cinema. We have a few intl students although we dont receive any special treatment, sometimes worse if I may say so. may of them are admitting thru the embassy as diplomatic children etc, and they leave before graduation etc,. 5 arabs always join but never make it past 1st year usually. LOTS of canadians each year, around 2 but you would never know they werent pakistani born and raised.Never let the fear of striking out, keep you from playing the game.May 20th, 2006, 04:21 AM #55
hehehe u guys are a classic...the fact is i have this crappy interview for teaching religous education on weds...and its gonna take me 2 yrs 2 become a fully qualified teacher..so im thinking why not try 2 get in2 studying medicine...uff life is so hard sometimes..rehan jus checked ur blog out..good stuff kid..how long do u think its gonna take me? i did try 2 do fast track in the uk its 4 yrs but extremly competitive..and i dont think they want many muslims doctors anymore...
my bad i think im confuzzling ceros cinema with some other palce oh i remember ceros cinema is in saddar right behind the bank opposite international burger?May 20th, 2006, 04:39 AM #56
I guess, i wouldnt know where ceros is because most paki cinema goers are people who drive taxis and richshaws looking for some cheap thrill!! And my opinion, dont think about it too much. I did 3 years of a bachelors degree in accounting and was almost done and I left it. Just throw yourself in suffer for 5 years or so and put it behind you. The time is gonna go anyway.Never let the fear of striking out, keep you from playing the game.May 20th, 2006, 04:45 AM #57
so u didnt have a chem, bio or physics background?May 20th, 2006, 04:49 AM #58
nope. I used the chemistry and biology from high school transcripts when I was like 14?! hah. then I went back and took physics at a community college. They give you higher conversion scores if your subjects are at a university level sometimes or they dont cut off as many marks so you have a better chance of admission.
Honestly, I didnt know ANYTHING when I first got here, hell I still dont but thats the cool thing bout pak, you can get away w/anything you dont understand by just memorizing it. I had no idea about anatomy biochem, physio, NADA.. ZILCH!! I looked at the MCAT Kaplan book for usa admissions and I would never have passed or been able to get into a school there. Now after 3 years here, I think I could ace the MCAT spare the Physics section!Never let the fear of striking out, keep you from playing the game.May 20th, 2006, 05:00 AM #59
to be honest..my brothers dont want me 2 do cuz of the whole "you should get married scene" but i wanna do it 4 my amma...u really have raised my hopes now!so do u think RMC would appreciate my BSC at all?i can blag my modules such as neaurpyshcolgy and biopsychology hena?May 20th, 2006, 05:07 AM #60
First I have no idea what "BSC" stands for, Second, depends on how your applying. If your applying as a foreigner, RMC could care less, you apply to the Economic Affairs Division and they put you in a govt school anywhere in the country based on your scores and where other foreign students want to go. Your scores = IBCC marks after conversion. If you apply to RMC as a local if your a paki citizen or whatever, not sure about your case really havent read all your posts, well still dont know ha ha, I know you have to give an admission test then and stuff. There are no interviews and stuff where someone seems "more qualified". Its just #'s really, money, or scoresNever let the fear of striking out, keep you from playing the game.
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