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    Thank you all for the kind wishes and feedback.

    I hope this thread helps us all to prepare for and 'tackle' 1st year of Med School successfully, (Inshallah).
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    Oh Wow. Great thread! Also, I had no idea we were required to study P.S and Islamiat in MBBS. Seems a bit absurd. Is it really tough? Is IS n English or Urdu? Do we have to study a lot for them? I've always hated PS. :p
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    Quote Originally Posted by rizwan94 View Post
    Now I'm making a plan on how to start medical studies using all this material. I'll try posting it at around 9-9.30pm today.
    thanx a lot i seriously need this
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    Medical Books for 1st Year

    Hi,

    I have delayed the study plan for the sole reason that an effective study plan can only be made when one knows which books to study. Thus, by net surfing and personal encounters with some medical students (back in August), I have made the following list of books recommended by various first year medical students and doctors:

    1. Anatomy:
    a. B.D. Chaurasia
    b. Snell?s Anatomy or K.L. Moore?s Anatomy
    c. Snell?s Neuroanatomy
    d. Netters Atlas

    Details: B.D. Chaurasia is described best as a shortcut to Gray?s Anatomy, so it?s a must-have. Snell?s is shorter with an easier text and clears concepts. Conversely, Moore?s is more detailed, but requires more time. If you have extra time, read it. However, if you?re still unsatisfied, Last;s Anatomy is considered a last alternate. Snell?s neuroanatomy is a must while Netter?s Atlas is handy for dissection classes.


    2. Physiology:
    a. Textbook of Physiology by Gyton & Hall
    b. Review of Physiology by Ganong
    c. Human Physiology by Sherwood

    Details: Gyton & Ganong are enough for Physiology. In case, Gyton does not work for you, use Sherwood as an alternative. Note, some students said a book on Physiology by Firdous and another by Mushtag (for clinical Physiology) are great for viva voce. (I had no idea about these books, and this is the first time I heard about them).


    3. Biochemistry:
    a. Lippincott?s Illustrated Biochemistry
    b. Harper?s Illustrated Biochemistry

    Details: There two are the commonly used books. Majority of students suggest Lippincott?s is enough.


    4. Embryology:
    Langman?s Embryology

    Detail: The only book most students agreed upon (Whew! Finally...a single book)


    5. Histology:
    a. Histology by Professor Laiq Hussain Siddiqi
    b. Wheatear?s Histology
    c. Deifories Histology

    Details: Students recommended Histology by Prof. Laiq. A common say is that it?s really weird , but it has the commonly asked questions. A few recommended Wheater?s as well.

    6. Behavioral Sciences:
    Everybody had their own preference. We are on our own in this one.

    Next post, study plan
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    plz give full reference of Netters Atlas, there are so many books on this name on google books and plz give link for downloading "Histology by Professor Laiq Hussain Siddiqi"

    just want to know EMBRYOLOGY is in syllabus of first professional year ????



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    Quote Originally Posted by h.a. View Post
    plz give full reference of Netters Atlas, there are so many books on this name on google books and plz give link for downloading "Histology by Professor Laiq Hussain Siddiqi"
    I am searching for it, but I don't think a PDF version would be available. I think, we'll have to buy a hard copy

    Quote Originally Posted by h.a. View Post
    just want to know EMBRYOLOGY is in syllabus of first professional year ????
    It's not stated on the covering page, but on page 3 of UHS MBBS Syllabus Part-I, some topics are stated under the heading General Embryology.
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    Also, for behavioral sciences, i think we should study the Handbook on Behavioural Sciences published by UHS 2006
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    I'll look into Netter's Atlas as well. But, till then, Anatronica App is also good and the link to Anatomy Atlas
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    Re: Medicine for Starters

    I personally did not like Langman for embryology at all. It seemed very disjointed to me and, in my opinion, is only good for memorization, not concepts. I think KLM (Keith L. Moore) might be a better choice for some. (Sorry to throw a wrench in that one rizwan94! Thank you for all that you're doing. It really is so helpful!)

    Also, for an anatomy atlas, there is an incredible one with actual pictures of all the bones, muscles, nerves, etc. I don't remember the name (sorry!) but if you go to a bookstore like Saeed Book Bank, they should know what it is. That's where I got mine. It helped me immensely during dissection and spotting and I highly recommend it.
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    Appreciate your feedback. However, I have some queries though...

    1. Which book should freshmen like me start with Snells or KLM?

    2. Ok, I'll check that bookstore out. But it would really help if you could provide something more specifics about that anatomy atlas? I mean anything unique about the cover or the page format etc.
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    Re: Medicine for Starters

    Quote Originally Posted by rizwan94 View Post
    Appreciate your feedback. However, I have some queries though...

    1. Which book should freshmen like me start with Snells or KLM?

    2. Ok, I'll check that bookstore out. But it would really help if you could provide something more specifics about that anatomy atlas? I mean anything unique about the cover or the page format etc.

    The KLM I was referring to was for embryology. If you're wondering about general anatomy, starting with Snell is just fine.

    As far as I can remember, the atlas had a plain beige cover with blue borders on the top and bottom. (I think there are different books that have this same cover scheme.) It is considerably thinner than say Netter's. I've tried to search for it but I didn't recognize any of the books I came across. It was the only anatomy atlas with actual pictures in the store at the time. It has pictures of bones showing all features and gross dissected regions with labeling. Everything is very clearly visible and I believe there wasn't any artificial coloring of the nerves or vessels. I'm not positive that it had organs in it, but I think it did. (Sorry, it's been a while.) I know it's frustrating not knowing the name of it, but I hope this helps.
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    Wow! This all is so helpful. Thanks so much rizwan94, I just started studying and this is all great.
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    Effectively Using the Thread Material (Part 1)

    1. Start with the PMDC Syllabus outline. It also includes the exam marks distribution and study duration as well. Then read the UHS syllabus too. Notice that MBBS syllabus outline in PMDC, UHS and HEC is similar. The main difference in all of these is that PMDC is most detailed, UHS and HEC state recommended books. Pay attention to the stated objectives of some subjects given in PMDC syllabus. My guess is exam and viva voce questions will test whether students fulfills the stated objectives or not.

    2. Take a look at the exam papers as posted by member H.a. () You will get an idea about the exam format and questions types. Try to classify the question so that you can prepare accordingly for the exam. Keep them in mind while studying think of other similar questions too and mark them in the book. This is an effective studying strategy, which will improve your result. When classes start, get hold of the old papers too.

    3. Come to the PDF versions of available recommended books. Read the first 6-10 pages of the books and figure out which books work for you and you understand easily. Concentrate more on Anatomy, Physiology and Biochemistry because they are the main subjects followed by Histology and Embryology for 1st Professional.

    4. On completing this task, you?ll probably make estimates about time needed to allot to each subject. This requires an effective studying strategy that should resolve the two critical problems most medical freshmen meet: (1) Time management and (2) Effective Studying Plan. For this, read the articles on studying effectively, followed by the book. Do not read the whole book, just go through the different strategies discussed. These will give you new ideas for studying and might possibly improve you study method as well (if needed). Having an effective studying strategy and plan is mandatory for Medical college because it?ll play a great role in your performance. (e.g. In medical college, students are required to process lot?s of information i.e. an estimated 270-300pgs per subject a month compared to 300pgs for one FSc subject a year)

    5. Since now, you are familiar with the syllabus, exam format, books and studying strategies, come to the study plan. (P.S. I?ll make another post in about two weeks. Personally a little unsatisfied with this)


    6. Always start with the basics. Understanding the medical test really well requires a good understanding of medical terms. One solution is to get a medical terms dictionary and use it as you study. The second is to understand the Latin and Greek prefixes, suffixes, roots and stems and basic word parts that make up medical terms. Start with Basic Medical Terminologies. Knowing what the word part means will help a lot in understanding the text better and also in the exam. However, if it still seems hard, stick to the dictionary then. Next, read the introduction material for Anatomy, Histology, Physiology, Embryology and Behavioral Sciences. This will give you a picture of the importance and objectives to keep in mind while actually studying the subjects. In addition (optional), giving a single read to the books, ?Human Physiology? and ?Anatomy and Physiology made Incredibly Visual? will prove beneficial because they include the basic facts and glossaries for all systems (sort of like quick preview tools)

    7. Now, come the actual course books. Begin from the three major subjects i.e. first chapters of Anatomy, Physiology and Biochemistry followed by Embryology and Histology. Surely, half the course of all subjects cannot be studied effectively in one month, However, doing first one to two topics (as stated in the syllabus outline) in the major three or all subjects is possible. Start with Snell?s Anatomy, Guyton, Lippincott?s Biochemistry and either Langman or KLM for Embryology. Still working on Histology and Behavioral Sciences

    Well friends, we?re finally on our way to Medical college. As a thousand miles journey starts form a single step, the time for us to take that step is real close. However, till then do not let the grass grow under your feet, and make the most of this one month window- a golden opportunity- and get a head start. We cannot go back and make a new beginning, but can start today and make a new ending. Because in the end, it will be the individual , his hard work & strenuous efforts, determination, confidence that will lead to success, not the institution. The institution plays a minute role. In this regard, let?s begin by studying the first chapters of Anatomy, Physiology and Biochemistry for starters.

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    Oh Wow. Great thread! Also, I had no idea we were required to study P.S and Islamiat in MBBS. Seems a bit absurd. Is it really tough? Is IS n English or Urdu? Do we have to study a lot for them? I've always hated PS. :p
    @Arshman, I also have no ideas about P.S. and Islamiat. Yeah, you're right, is sort of absurd. Students say it's simple. And I'm not sure about language. I'll try to meet up with medical students and let you know what they tell me. And the course seems sort of long. We have to study both in second semester (after June, I think). I have always liked P.S. This is what I do; make a chronology list of all the events stated in the whole book on some pages or small notepad. Read and memorize them whenever you have some spare time. This way, you will remember the dates better. And only do the main things that we've already studied in matric and fsc.
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    Nice work rizwan!

    Jazakumullahu khairan! =]
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    Hey! Do we have to write long, meandering, useless paragraphs of random nonsense for the long questions to get good marks or will short, compact, informative and required stuff will do as well?
    and I really hope PS is more than just remembering dates. I HATE that. :p
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arshman1995 View Post
    Hey! Do we have to write long, meandering, useless paragraphs of random nonsense for the long questions to get good marks or will short, compact, informative and required stuff will do as well?
    and I really hope PS is more than just remembering dates. I HATE that. :p
    check this out
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    Anatomy Atlas Books

    I am still searching for various atlas books and have found the following good books (in my opinion) so far. Related reviews and comparisons are also shared. I am still searching for the mysterious book as recommended by the respected Moderator Purpleprism (Really grateful to you for giving information about that atlas). I personally think, Rohen?s Atlas slightly resembles the salient features of that atlas, which I believe must be better than Netter?s.

    1. Netter?s Atlas (5th Edition): a. b.
    Review:

    2. Rohen?s Atlas (7th edition)
    Links: a. 7th edition:
    Review:

    Comparison of Netter?s, Rohen?s and others:

    3. Grant?s Atlas (12th Edition):

    4. CPSP chosen Atlas books (well, might be useful)
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    Asalamu alikum!

    Bump...!
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    Great job rizwan94!
    By the way, I have a hunch that the atlas purpleprism is referring to might be "Mcminn's Atlas of Anatomy." It totally fits this description: "... an incredible one with actual pictures of all the bones, muscles, nerves, etc."
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    i'm going to attend sheikh zayed medical college affiliated with PU. classes start Monday. I need a list of which books I need for first year. someone help me please.
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