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#1 ·
Objective of the Thread

Hi,

This thread has been created to familiarize fresh Medical students (including myself) with the medical profession, studying tips and strategies and basics of Medical subjects to be studied in first year of M.B.B.S before the start of classes in December 2012. Hopefully, it will include links to books, useful websites, educational videos, medicine apps and much more all chosen in line with the M.B.B.S syllabus as outlined by PMDC, UHS and HEC. It is hoped the posted information proves helpful and takes us all on the path to excel through Medical School and fulfill our most cherished childhood dream of becoming doctors.
 
#71 ·
Asalamu alikum!
I'm trying to find it out for myself but still needs your opinion on it. Which subject out of these

A. Anatomy
B. Biochemistry
C. Physiology
D. Histology
E. Embryology

are you people finding
1.more time-demanding?
2.kind of a dry subject?
3.interesting one and easy?
Any anyother review you people might wana give?

Doctors are also most welcome to comment and help us out find where we need to pay more attention and which subject gonna give us hard time?

Waslam! :cat:
 
#73 ·
BUmp...:p
how is everyone?
...can't believe what just happened! MEDICAL HAPPENED to us! Lol
The torture, the exhaustion, the tension... I would never be the same again :-/ XD
I've been missing alot on this forum so can any of
u direct me to some interesting discussion going around here regarding first yr students? XD
 
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#78 ·
Salamu alikum!
@ cefspan: i won't announce here which medical colege but has inboxed u the name :D

@ rizwan: haahaa! good to know that :p
so which subject you people finding difficult? I'm just hating anatomy. I dun like the way they teach us anatomy there. I mean i'm not enjoying studies... Physio is the best amongst the other subjects. Biochem is also fine.

Guys, for anatomy, i don't use much online help. Just see b.d videos sometimes. Is that alright?
 
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Salamu alikum!
@ cefspan: i won't announce here which medical colege but has inboxed u the name :D

@ rizwan: haahaa! good to know that :p
so which subject you people finding difficult? I'm just hating anatomy. I dun like the way they teach us anatomy there. I mean i'm not enjoying studies... Physio is the best amongst the other subjects. Biochem is also fine.
Guys, for anatomy, i don't use much online help. Just see b.d videos sometimes. Is that alright?
Personally, Anatomy requires the most work. Yes, I agree Physiology is the best. I also find BD videos helpful.
I think Snell and KLM are enough.
Histology slides for Practice.
I'll keep sharing some useful sites I know and request the same from you guy, insha Allah! =]
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/....258839497515643.64553.232893773443549&type=1
Thanks. I'll be sure to share anything useful I come across. :)

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Salamu alikum!
@ cefspan: i won't announce here which medical colege but has inboxed u the name :D

@ rizwan: haahaa! good to know that :p
so which subject you people finding difficult? I'm just hating anatomy. I dun like the way they teach us anatomy there. I mean i'm not enjoying studies... Physio is the best amongst the other subjects. Biochem is also fine.
Guys, for anatomy, i don't use much online help. Just see b.d videos sometimes. Is that alright?
Personally, Anatomy requires the most work. Yes, I agree Physiology is the best. I also find BD videos helpful.
I think Snell and KLM are enough.
Histology slides for Practice.
I'll keep sharing some useful sites I know and request the same from you guy, insha Allah! =]
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/....258839497515643.64553.232893773443549&type=1
Thanks. I'll be sure to share anything useful I come across. :)
 
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#82 ·
^ Salam!
@ beautiful.areeba: Sorry i didn't get what you are asking. Can you please rephrase the que again?

@rizwan94: Salam! Can you please check this review and tell me how you find this medical book? You've been so helpful to us in the past and I'm pretty sure you gonna give a fair review on it.

Marks' basic medical biochemistry: a clinical approach Marks' basic medical biochemistry: a clinical approach - Google Books

I'm kinda having a problem in biochemistry concepts and would really appreciate help in this regard. What book do you use btw? Or you rely on your teachers' notes? :)
 
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^ Salam!
@ beautiful.areeba: Sorry i didn't get what you are asking. Can you please rephrase the que again?

@rizwan94: Salam! Can you please check this review and tell me how you find this medical book? You've been so helpful to us in the past and I'm pretty sure you gonna give a fair review on it.

Marks' basic medical biochemistry: a clinical approach Marks' basic medical biochemistry: a clinical approach - Google Books

I'm kinda having a problem in biochemistry concepts and would really appreciate help in this regard. What book do you use btw? Or you rely on your teachers' notes? :)
Well Thats A good book! I also did give it a try back in Jan but point is that out paper, that would be in UHS,
Mushtaq ( its gruesome) they follow though teachers do ask you to read lippincott and harper ( I do go through both)
Even Chatterjee Is Good, much descriptive as compared to all three of these and one surely gets the concept from there so I would say
first for paper attempting, read the book your college walas tell you to and for getting concepts you can give chatterjee a try :)
Which topics are you studying? Vitamins?
 
#84 ·
Salamu alikum!

@ Cefspan: oooh thanks ALOT! that really helped! I would definitely give Chaterjee a try!

My college walas say to study from any book we like. Teachers mainly go for mushtaq, and some for Hashmi. My cousin now doing her House Job recommended Hashmi but as I said before, I don't find it much to my liking.
But no you've pointed out a new book and I'm gonna make sure I do give it a try too. =]
May Allah bless you loads!

Jazakumullahu khairan! :)
 
#85 ·
Asalamu alikum!
Hey fellows, how are your studies going? :)
Did you guys make any timetable for these summer vacations?
 
#87 ·
Guys how is your proff preparation going? mine is going terrible :(
 
#90 ·
Asalamu alikum!
Guys how to prepare for viva and ospe?
Is there memorization involved?
I know practical notebooks should be done completely. Then in biochem, you have questions even from within the course.
Should I go through gross ana quickly cuz I don't remember it that well?
And for biochem, we got to go through the whole syllabus again as even in ospe que would be from there?
 
#91 ·
where are all of you guys? :? we could have our online community too you know, our virtual classroom where we could share links :(
 
#92 ·
Hi,

I couldn't find any recent past OSCE papers, and this is all I have been able to find on OSCE: MEDICAL CHOICES: 1st year MBBS OSPE& PASTPAPERS . I believe we definitely have to revise full practicals, not sure about full syllabus again. But I'm trying to revise most of it.

Did anyone else find something useful? It would really be appreciated. :)

Good luck with your exams everyone!
 
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Hi,

I couldn't find any recent past OSCE papers, and this is all I have been able to find on OSCE: MEDICAL CHOICES: 1st year MBBS OSPE& PASTPAPERS .
heyaa! awh why didn't you say so before?! I have a couple of links but don't usually visit them cuz i just pay attention to my practical notebook and textbook. But this group here https://www.facebook.com/groups/167109393463056/ is just AWESOME. :D we discuss here the whole syllabus and ques and ospe and what not. and you, rizwan, would definitely be a great contributor over there i'm sure! do join it as soon as possible. then visit the "Files" tab and photos, over there is whole ospe related material.

If you dun wana join it, then do let me know, i'll then post helpful ospe related material here


I believe we definitely have to revise full practicals, not sure about full syllabus again. But I'm trying to revise most of it.

Did anyone else find something useful? It would really be appreciated. :)

Good luck with your exams everyone!
yeah definitely full practicals. :| and since i didn't finish my syllabus the first time, so gotta revise the things left.

and these are some of the links i'm checking right now. you people can have a look at them too

https://www.dropbox.com/s/6se4t2a88skkm6c/VK%20Malhotra%20-%20Practical%20Biochemistry%20for%20Students%2C%204th%20Edition.rar


https://www.dropbox.com/s/bwo2uy9ucx4rnnl/Anatomy viva book.rar

https://www.dropbox.com/s/tcxr4yopl...book of Practical Physiology, 8th Edition.rar

https://www.dropbox.com/s/v2gfdf1cr2nd0en/Clinical Biochemistry Made Ridiculously Simple.rar

can't provide any reviews since i haven't seen them yet myself...

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and this facebook page as well owned by the above group admins
https://www.facebook.com/pages/MBBS-Study-Stuff-All-Prof/232893773443549?sk=photos_albums

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For vivas, it largely depends on examiners as to what questions they ask. :|
ospe can only be practiced on the instruments and models and specimens of your particular college!
Physio ospe, totally the questions from practical notebook.
Biochem ospe, well que come from within the text as well so not much hope here.

So I don't know, how to prepare well. I'm just revising my practical notebooks and hoping for the best :/
 
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#95 ·
Asalamu alikum!

Any seniors out here? Any advice you guys can give us? we are about to start our second year mbbs and seems like it's hell twice the burden of 1st yr. :| you know you can struck the physics book and the anatomy book on your head just a couple of times and can manage quite a good amount of fracture... :cautious:
 
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#97 ·
Walikum asalam!
:D
Guess no one's there. Well, I've started working on second professional now. It's turning out to be lengthier than 1st Prof :p. Well, now we too are seniors and I think its time we guided new students too. Just a suggestion, why don't we all post our tips/advice for 1st Prof here till next week and then we'll get started on second prof. By then I'll have gathered all the material by then too, Insha Allah. All members who have posted in this thread are welcome to share their tips, advice, tricks and strategies. :)

:roflmao: Yeah!
P.S. Thanks for sharing the links!
 
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Hey guys - I'm just about to start med school this year! I've been practically stalking the Internet for med school advice so I figured I might as well share it :)


  1. Firstly, this website is a GOLDMINE. A Reddit for Medical School Students. It's where med students from all over the world talk about their problems/give each other advice, etc. True, it contains a lot of USMLE preparation stuff but there are loads of great threads in it, like this one is a huge collection of Medical e-books, this gives advice to incoming students, and so on!
  2. ANKI. It's a flashcard program - and it's been recommended by loads of med students! Scared about how to learn loads of anatomy facts and remember it even after a few months? ANKI's the answer! It's a spaced repetition flashcard program aka it takes into account the brain's forgetting curve. Website: Anki - powerful, intelligent flashcards You can download it for free for your computer (Windows or Mac), or Android phone/tablet. The iPad/iPod/IPhone version is paid though. If you're too lazy to make cards, there are loads of card decks made by other users. (If you're convinced I'm a crazy newbie, maybe this will change your mind)
  3. Nearly every website in this link is pretty useful - What are some good websites that every medstudent must have bookmarked? : medicalschool

To the seniors - hope you guys did well on your 1st Prof! And @rizwan94 this thread is amazing - THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK. Any advice from you/the seniors regarding the first year will be greatly appreciated :thumbsup:
 
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Asalamu alikum!

[the med school is starting again from tomorrow :cry:]

Ok so juniors, some advice I could pull together is

You'll find Gross Anatomy to be most time consuming. You'll be covering upper limb, lower limb and trunk (under UHS affiliated colleges). [in second year you do head and neck, abdomen, pelvis and neuro :?.]
So think about it that "ok this is my arm, what exactly have you in you that makes you so special and make you end up in my course." or think this way "bones are the foundations on which the muscles are attached to. then there are these "passageways" or "roads" which are the nerves and vessels running their length. so first always you will be studying bones, then muscle attachments and then nerves an vessels.
Also make your self curious that lower limb and upper limb function is so different yet there are similarities. how is the hand designed so perfectly that their working makes one an artist, a painter, a tennis player etc.

So in this way try to make it interesting for yourself. try to get curious about it. Also many books don't give complete course of nerves and vessels so keep making complete notes on their routes while studying different sections.

Embryo should be understood initially in 3D so some softwares can help you their.

Biochem is a LOT OF cramming and you need to even know a lot!

Physio wording of Guyton seems pretty easy but dun be fooled as it is very hard to remember. try to make side notes which contain at least all essential points talked about in a passage.
 
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Asalamu alikum!
Fellows, I'm forgetting first year gross anatomy slowly. Is this normal? I mean what about using that knowledge in clinical rotations, house-job and then hopefully medical practice? :/
 
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^ Don't have any idea! :/ I actually didn't even know the weight-age wasn't equal to other subjects'. :p
Depends if UHS agrees.

And guys, I'm having second thoughts about Guyton Physiology Book! I think Essentials of Physio by Jaypee is concise, upto point and better than guyton. what do you guys have to say about it?
 
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charm_gul said:
To the seniors - hope you guys did well on your 1st Prof! And @rizwan94 this thread is amazing - THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK. Any advice from you/the seniors regarding the first year will be greatly appreciated
Thank you for that. I appreciate it. Exams went well, thankfully. Apologizes for a late reply. I was caught up in elective searching and visa processing. But, well, it didn't turn out as expected, the timing was messed up. Nothing new here... this is life. Next year for sure.

Anyways, I'll have some tips posted here before the prof exams. For the time being, juniors like you might like to have a look at these solved past papers for first Prof part-II (credit goes to the compilers) to get an idea about the question pattern, types and answer samples. Also, for similar questions for first year, check everything out on this website and PakMedicalWorld. It's a good idea to get past papers from your seniors, who definitely collected them and still have them. But, do return them after you get photocopies. And welcome to Med school. Hope you like it by now. All the best with your studies and hang in there, the beginnings always tougher.

So, here are the links fellow doctors. I'll post other second year material before profs later on:

1. Anatomy papers
http://edublogpk.files.wordpress.co...st-papers-by-med-com-www-edu-apnafort-com.pdf

2. Biochemistry papers
http://edublogpk.files.wordpress.co...st-papers-by-med-com-www-edu-apnafort-com.pdf

3. Physiology papers
http://edublogpk.files.wordpress.co...papers-2nd-year-mbbs-www-edu-apnafort-com.pdf

Hope these help.

Zaini33 said:
Assalmu Alikum!
Fellows, I'm forgetting first year gross anatomy slowly. Is this normal? I mean what about using that knowledge in clinical rotations, house-job and then hopefully
Repetition is the only way to retain all this information (potentially for the rest of your career). You have got to make time to revise everything you learn in medical school and beyond. And I'm sure you're passionate about medicine, so it shouldn't be a problem. Make it a habit to study some every day to keep it fresh. Cramming doesn't work.

wind said:
We are told that from now on PMDC has changed biochemistry marks equivalent to that of physio and anatomy i.e. it is now a major as well. What difference will it make?
Depends. It won't be that big a change. I also heard about first year anatomy syllabus revision.

Zaini33 said:
And guys, I'm having second thoughts about Guyton Physiology Book! I think Essentials of Physio by Jaypee is concise, upto point and better than guyton. what do you guys have to say about it?
Jaypee is the better book for second year physiology (seniors recommendation too). Guyton becomes a reference, but don't leave it out completely.

How do you find gross and Neuroanatomy? I used to think the hip was mind-boggling till I met the abdomin. Neuro's fantastic though!

shaheeen said:
AOA Can anyone tell me where to get video lectures of anatomy which include Grays anatomy data
I haven't come across any on the web, but you might want to check this out:

http://kickass.to/anatomy-videos-and-lectures-complete-package-of-over-35-gb-t4392951.html

kay94 said:
can anyone recommend a book for behavioral sciences plz??
"A Handbook of Behavioral Sciences for Medical & Dental students" by Prof. Mowadat H. Rana for UHS affiliated medical colleges.

Abdul Rehman Ein. said:
Bulls Eye! Great effort.
Thanks man! It's not quite a bulls eye yet. But I'm working on it.

roshnipk said:
Admissions Open..Roshni International (Pak) proudly announce 6-months Advanced U.S based training program for Doctors and Paramedics..For registration and other details contact: 0331-0301197, 021-35407433..Hill Park General Hospital.
I take it that the training program is an externship/observership and not a residency program, correct?
 
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Anyone who is having an extreme battle with the neuroanatomy, :cry: here are SOME video lectures of Dr. Najeeb https://www.mediafire.com/folder/5c7lvfd4xu0g5/Neuroanatomy#rpcp56ask6w5r taken from this facebook page, very helpful https://www.facebook.com/Medicalstudycenter2012?ref=br_tf
Couldn't find embryo lectures though. Only this video by a legendary professor Dr. Acland https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DIUk9IXUaI
I don't know how am I going to cover such a lengthy syllabus :cry: physio is killing me, embryo stabbed me in the back, neuro cracked my skull open and well...you get the picture so moving on...
oh and I'm completely wasting my Ramadan break! my professors gonna eat me alive in the vivas so this might be a farewell msg from me :!:

...Apologizes for a late reply. I was caught up in elective searching and visa processing. But, well, it didn't turn out as expected, the timing was messed up. Nothing new here... this is life. Next year for sure.
hey rizwan you are in 2nd year right? because we can only go for RESEARCH electives and not clinical ones (unless you managed to really impress your professor that he allowed you to do some rotation around the hospital). btw which US Hospital you were applying to?
And yeah one senior gave a real helpful suggestion which I wanted to share that if you are planning to give USMLE in the future, then give Step 2 CS during your visit for electives! this would save you one more tour and would get you licensed quickly which is extremely important when that time comes.
So would you give then Step2CS?

This torrent has ZERO seeders! gonna take me eternity to download it. :?
 
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