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    Quote Originally Posted by escalations View Post
    To the best of my knowledge 15% so if you have 90%, you will be at 75%. I have seen eq reports from different Canadian provinces but none from Alberta. Unless Alberta uses letter grades, or 13 year schooling it will be the same.
    This is only counting Bio, chem, English, Phy/Maths and one other subject for a total of 5 subjects in Grade 11 and 12. Add all the %'s of 5 subjects from 2 years, add them up and then convert them from 1000 to 1100. This will be your equivalence.

    I had heard from somewhere that there was a movement to change that 15% number as it is too harsh but not sure if a change is in order, I wouldn't hope so. There is not much sympathy for students from North America.
    Hey! I'm still a little confused. I'm getting my Canadian marks converted as well and when I add up the marks from my 5 subjects out of 1000 and then use that number to get an average from 1100 its only a 7% decrease... LOL I don't know if I'm doing this right
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    Hey! I'm still a little confused. I'm getting my Canadian marks converted as well and when I add up the marks from my 5 subjects out of 1000 and then use that number to get an average from 1100 its only a 7% decrease... LOL I don't know if I'm doing this right
    Hi
    Can you please explain it because I really want to know how it's done for Canadian high school.
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    Here is how it works for Canadians as per my understanding. Say you have following in Grade 11 and 12:
    English: 90 and 95
    Bio: 95 and 96
    Chem: 85 and 90
    Physics or Maths: 85 and 90
    One other subject: 90 and 90

    That makes it: 906 out of 1000.
    So about 997 out of 1100.
    With IBCC taking a 15% cut because we foreigners come from an inferior education system = end up with 847/1100 or 77%.
    If you score around 1850 total in 3 SAT subject tests, that will also be around 77% so you will stay same so best is to improve SAT score.

    There maybe a slight variation but for the few reports I have seen, and the info on their web site this above formula seems to be true.
    I have also heard of unverified chatter that the IBCC is considering reviewing the 15% as it is considered too harsh but it could be pure speculation. The general public is not too sympathetic for students from western countries.

    Again the above info is on best guess basis after reviewing some conversions and I am not privy to inner workings of IBCC.


    Since you are asking IBCC, I take you are planning to apply. Let me give you some jaankari, I got from this site in last few months.

    If the above calculations are true, and if you are student from USA and Canada, you have very little chance to compete with students from other countries (who are not subject to 15% cut) on any PTAP or HEC seats in Punjab govt colleges. So screwed in either case due to the rule change last year on SFS seats.

    For Aga Khan admissions many other factors come into play, including SAT scores, EC's and other things and lot of luck so don't bank on that.
    For private colleges in Punjab and Islamabad on Foreign seats as long you have 3 SAT2 scores of 550 it is not very difficult. Shifa has some competition (?) and a higher SAT 2 requirements (650 in Bio and Chem). For CMH Lahore even less competition and for rest of colleges not difficult also as long you are OK to shell US $18000 a year in fees. I have read good reviews on Foundation, Shalimar and Wah also but that does not mean these colleges are better then others. Be sure to apply 4 or 5 as things change every year.
    Sorry I don't know much about Medical Colleges in other provinces.
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    Quote Originally Posted by escalations View Post
    Here is how it works for Canadians as per my understanding. Say you have following in Grade 11 and 12:
    English: 90 and 95
    Bio: 95 and 96
    Chem: 85 and 90
    Physics or Maths: 85 and 90
    One other subject: 90 and 90

    That makes it: 906 out of 1000.
    So about 997 out of 1100.
    With IBCC taking a 15% cut because we foreigners come from an inferior education system = end up with 847/1100 or 77%.
    If you score around 1850 total in 3 SAT subject tests, that will also be around 77% so you will stay same so best is to improve SAT score.

    There maybe a slight variation but for the few reports I have seen, and the info on their web site this above formula seems to be true.
    I have also heard of unverified chatter that the IBCC is considering reviewing the 15% as it is considered too harsh but it could be pure speculation. The general public is not too sympathetic for students from western countries.

    Again the above info is on best guess basis after reviewing some conversions and I am not privy to inner workings of IBCC.


    Since you are asking IBCC, I take you are planning to apply. Let me give you some jaankari, I got from this site in last few months.

    If the above calculations are true, and if you are student from USA and Canada, you have very little chance to compete with students from other countries (who are not subject to 15% cut) on any PTAP or HEC seats in Punjab govt colleges. So screwed in either case due to the rule change last year on SFS seats.

    For Aga Khan admissions many other factors come into play, including SAT scores, EC's and other things and lot of luck so don't bank on that.
    For private colleges in Punjab and Islamabad on Foreign seats as long you have 3 SAT2 scores of 550 it is not very difficult. Shifa has some competition (?) and a higher SAT 2 requirements (650 in Bio and Chem). For CMH Lahore even less competition and for rest of colleges not difficult also as long you are OK to shell US $18000 a year in fees. I have read good reviews on Foundation, Shalimar and Wah also but that does not mean these colleges are better then others. Be sure to apply 4 or 5 as things change every year.
    Sorry I don't know much about Medical Colleges in other provinces.
    You blessed us
    Thank you so much!
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    You are welcome. Also please note, this is for internal school systems and not for IB, AP or other external systems.
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    QuestionCorrect In Final Calculation Of Marks


    I have recently got my eqvi cert and I was following the method listed in this forum to verify the calculation. The calculation was perfect in calculating marks individually for O and A levels. But the final addition for both of them is the mistake that needs to be corrected. The correct way is as follows:

    Wrong way:
    (675/900) + (180/200) = 855/1100

    Correct way:
    Marks: 525 + 270 = 795
    Total: 700 + 300 = 1000

    Total marks out of 1100 = (795/1000) * 1100 = 874.5 == 875 / 1100
    Final percentage = (875/1100) * 100 = 79.55%
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    Quote Originally Posted by escalations View Post
    Here is how it works for Canadians as per my understanding. Say you have following in Grade 11 and 12:
    English: 90 and 95
    Bio: 95 and 96
    Chem: 85 and 90
    Physics or Maths: 85 and 90
    One other subject: 90 and 90

    That makes it: 906 out of 1000.
    So about 997 out of 1100.
    With IBCC taking a 15% cut because we foreigners come from an inferior education system = end up with 847/1100 or 77%.
    If you score around 1850 total in 3 SAT subject tests, that will also be around 77% so you will stay same so best is to improve SAT score.

    There maybe a slight variation but for the few reports I have seen, and the info on their web site this above formula seems to be true.
    I have also heard of unverified chatter that the IBCC is considering reviewing the 15% as it is considered too harsh but it could be pure speculation. The general public is not too sympathetic for students from western countries.

    Again the above info is on best guess basis after reviewing some conversions and I am not privy to inner workings of IBCC.


    Since you are asking IBCC, I take you are planning to apply. Let me give you some jaankari, I got from this site in last few months.

    If the above calculations are true, and if you are student from USA and Canada, you have very little chance to compete with students from other countries (who are not subject to 15% cut) on any PTAP or HEC seats in Punjab govt colleges. So screwed in either case due to the rule change last year on SFS seats.

    For Aga Khan admissions many other factors come into play, including SAT scores, EC's and other things and lot of luck so don't bank on that.
    For private colleges in Punjab and Islamabad on Foreign seats as long you have 3 SAT2 scores of 550 it is not very difficult. Shifa has some competition (?) and a higher SAT 2 requirements (650 in Bio and Chem). For CMH Lahore even less competition and for rest of colleges not difficult also as long you are OK to shell US $18000 a year in fees. I have read good reviews on Foundation, Shalimar and Wah also but that does not mean these colleges are better then others. Be sure to apply 4 or 5 as things change every year.
    Sorry I don't know much about Medical Colleges in other provinces.
    How can they pick the 5th subject? Do they consider the optionals
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    Quote Originally Posted by escalations View Post
    To the best of my knowledge 15% so if you have 90%, you will be at 75%. I have seen eq reports from different Canadian provinces but none from Alberta. Unless Alberta uses letter grades, or 13 year schooling it will be the same.
    This is only counting Bio, chem, English, Phy/Maths and one other subject for a total of 5 subjects in Grade 11 and 12. Add all the %'s of 5 subjects from 2 years, add them up and then convert them from 1000 to 1100. This will be your equivalence.

    I had heard from somewhere that there was a movement to change that 15% number as it is too harsh but not sure if a change is in order, I wouldn't hope so. There is not much sympathy for students from North America.
    Hi so I took Chem in grade 10 and not in grades 11 and 12, does that affect my score??
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    Can we use the same method to calculate the IBCC equivalence for American student?
    Hey so I'm confused on one thing. If we go to an American high school but out school uses numbers, would our grades be still 15% beducted? Also I heard that like IBCC makes the American grades so low, why is that? And what subjects do they take into consideration when doing so? I know they choose physics, chem, bio and English for pre med, but is that it? Also should I take the SAT 2 subjects or the MCAT. Which one would u think is easier and do the medical colleges accept SAT2? Thanks. Also, the subjects are taken in like separate years. Except for bio and physics which I took in one year. And is conceptual physics counted the same as regular physics or no?
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    Brother, i would kindly like to ask that , i recently gave my cies and scored 2As and 6Bs(here in Pakistan)( not quite what i expected but anyways ), what i want to ask is that how much percentage are the ibcc going to deduct ?
    cze i've heard its 10 percent and u've stated that its 2 percent, its makin me even more confused
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hannahmontana000 View Post
    Hey so I'm confused on one thing. If we go to an American high school but out school uses numbers, would our grades be still 15% beducted? Also I heard that like IBCC makes the American grades so low, why is that? And what subjects do they take into consideration when doing so? I know they choose physics, chem, bio and English for pre med, but is that it? Also should I take the SAT 2 subjects or the MCAT. Which one would u think is easier and do the medical colleges accept SAT2? Thanks. Also, the subjects are taken in like separate years. Except for bio and physics which I took in one year. And is conceptual physics counted the same as regular physics or no?
    yes american high school graduates get 15% deductions by Usman Khan and Amjad of IBCC Islamabad. those guys are ruthless .

    also do your ibcc in humanities because they scores are usually higher than pre - medical
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    Quote Originally Posted by waleed94 View Post
    Before reading NOTE:- If you are studying in Pakistan and doing O'Levels you need to have 8 subjects must and out of which Pakistan studies, Islamic studies and Urdu subjects are a must.
    (If you are doing IGCSE/O'levels Abroad (Outside pakistan) then you only need 5 subjects and no need to take Pakistan studies, Islamic studies and Urdu)


    Okay after a long time i figured out how to convert the grades.
    I will show you my results of my IGCSE and convert it now so you get the idea how to convert it.

    I got the following in IGCSE. 1 A , 5B's and 1 C ( Not good though)
    (According to IBCC, A* = 90, A = 85, B=75 and C=65)
    !! Okay so since the matric in Pakistan is out of 900, we would convert all the scores to 900. and the A level to 200. !!

    I gave total 7 subjects so my raw marks will be 700.

    ( The total raw marks will be the number of subjects you take multiplied by 100, For example if a person took 5 subjects 5*100 = 500 will be the raw marks, likewise if 8 subjects were taken then 8*100 = 800 will be the raw marks. In my case 7 subjects so i will use 700 as the raw marks.(

    Lets convert now. 1A , 5B's and 1C will be = 85+(75*5)+65 = 525.
    So my score is 525/700.

    To convert this to percentage we simply multiply the fraction by 100. So, (525/700)*100 = 75%
    So here my percentage is 75%. ( Note IBCC deducts 2% marks so the actual percentage will drop to 73.5%)

    IBCC converts this to 900. To do that multiply the fraction by 900 to get scores according to 900.

    This is, (525/700)*900 which is equal to = 675/900
    (The percentage remains same, 675/900 * 100 = 75 %) ( Note IBCC deducts 2% marks so the actual percentage will drop to 73.5%)



    Now comes the A level marks.

    For example the A level grades were 3 A* ( A* = 90 )
    So the raw mark will be of 300.

    Lets calculate the marks and percentage.
    90+90+90 = 270
    So our marks are 270/300. The percentage will be 270/300 * 100 = 90% ( Note IBCC deducts 2% marks so the actual percentage will drop to 88.2%)

    Now the IBCC raw mark used is 200 in A levels , but our marks are in 300. SO we need to convert our marks to 200.

    Let's do that:- (270/300)*200 = 180
    So our marks out of 200 will be = 180/200
    (The percentage remains same, 180/200 * 100 = 90%) ( Note IBCC deducts 2% marks so the actual percentage will drop to 88.2%)

    These were the individual score calculations for each (Matric (IGCSE/O'LEVELS) and Intermediate (A'LEVELS) )

    Now from these two we can calculate the IBCC Equivalence scores (That is IGCSE/O levels AND A levels COMBINED)
    We just add up the scores now.

    Our IGCSE/O'LEVEL scores were = 675/900
    Our A'LEVEL scores were = 180/200

    So therefore:- (675/900) + (180/200) = 855/1100 ( Percentage = 855/1100 * 100 = 77.7 % = 78%)
    ( Note IBCC deducts 2% so from each percentage will be 4% deduction. so the actual percentage will drop to 74.88% )

    This score will be the total score in the Equivalence certificate. 855/1100


    I hope this was a really big help for people in this forum searching for proper answers.
    I request admins to sticky my post so in future people do not repeat the same question.


    Best Regards, Waleed.



    I just wanted to know are you sureee the results (alevels and olevels) combined?! 100% sure? Are they both combined?
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    Hey guys.I am a student from Dubai and I wish to get my IBCC equivalence for my O and A level.
    My Olevel subjects are phy,chem,bio,math,eng,Urdu and Islamic.
    My grades are A*, 2As,2Bs and 2Cs.

    My Alevel subjects are phy,chem and bio and grades are B,C and E
    I gave my exams in Dubai itself.Olevel in 2012 and complete Alevel by Jan 2016.

    Can someone please convert my marks for me? Out of 1100 I mean? PLEASE!
    also,how long does the equivalence process take? As in maximum how many days would it take for my IBCC equivalence to be ready for collection?
    I need to submit my equivalence to my university before 18th of October so it's urgent.
    Please help me out and guide me!
    Thank you and god bless!
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    Could someone please help me understand this process of equivalence. For the Scottish system, the IBCC give 75 marks for an A, 55 for a B, and 45 for a C. I have given 5 subjects in the HSSC/FSc equivalent, so would that mean the highest any Scottish applicant could get is 375/500 for HSSC/FSc equivalent?
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    how much will my o and a level contribute to the 50% if I got all A*s (both O and Alevels)
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    ibcc is such a troublesome org
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    Urgent Please Reply!!!

    I have given O'level Pakistan studies Urdu and Islamic Studies last year June 2016 now can you please tell me that is it possible to to appear for 3 o'level papers in June 2017 and 3 in November 2017,will the equivalency be made like this.
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